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Tuesday, December 16, 2008

#147. Gold Investment In Malaysia

Find Out 5 Ways You Can Invest In Gold In Malaysia, And Know Which Is The Best

Many people have been interested in this shiny metal as investment of late. If you have seen my previous article on my forecast on gold price, it's coming true. The third triangle has formed and the gold price is now going up.

This article will give a comparison on where is the best place to invest in gold in malaysia.

1. Poh Kong
I bought a piece of 50gm Poh Kong Bunga Raya 999.9 Fine Gold gold bar on 5 November 2007. The selling price was RM95 per gram.

On 8 December 2008, I sold it back to Poh Kong. While the retail price for 999 gold on that day was RM105 per gram, Poh Kong bought it back from me at only RM94 per gram. Doing the maths, that's about 12% buying and selling price difference.

This is definitely not a good place to buy gold and invest in gold.

2. Maybank Gold Savings Passbook
In my early days of investing in gold, I was happy that Maybank offers a gold savings passbook account. This means that I don't have to find a safe deposit to keep the my gold bars from Poh Kong.

Let's examine the buying and selling price.

Today's gold price in Maybank:
Selling RM100.61
Buying RM93.10

Doing the maths, you can see the buying and selling price difference is about 8%. This is better than Poh Kong.

But wait, there is more. Read on.

3. Public Bank Gold Investment Account
On 21 April 2008, Maybank Gold Savings Passbook Account had a new competitor. It is the Public Bank Gold Investment Account. I was happy with this initiative from Public Bank. Let's see their buying and selling gold price difference to see what I mean.

Selling RM97.78
Buying RM93.83

Doing the maths again, the price difference between buying and selling is 4.2%. This is about half of what Maybank is offering. Definitely a good place to invest in gold. Don't you think?

A related article that I have written that you can read is here.

Now, why are we interested in the buying and selling price difference?

Well, the smaller the gap is, the faster you can break even on your investment when the price is going up. If you buy a Poh Kong gold bar, you have to wait for the price to go up more than 12% before you can make a profit in your investment. You are buying at the Retail price (Selling price) and you are selling back your gold at their Buying price. Therefore, the smaller the difference, the better it is.

Of course if you prefer to hold physical gold coins rather than just having a passbook account, you can do so by buying them from Maybank or UOB Bank.

4. UOB Bank Gold Coins
UOB offers competitive pricing in their gold coins and products (click on Gold Prices on that link).

UOB has Australian Nuggets, Gold Maple Leaf, Kinebar, Pamp Gold and Singapore Lion. They come in different sizes. The best ones are those 1 oz weight.

For example, look at the Aust Nuggets buying and selling price.

Selling RM3078
Buying RM2993

Let's do the maths. The difference is about 2.8%. This is by far the best compare to all those above.

5. Maybank Kijang Emas
Maybank has its own gold coins too. It's called the Kijang Emas Gold coins. It comes in three sizes, 1 oz, half oz and quarter oz.

The best rate of course is the largest one, the 1 oz gold coin.

Selling RM3141
Buying RM3041

Do your maths and see the selling and buying price difference. It's about 3.3% difference. Certainly can't beat UOB's prices.

So, now you know the difference. Invest wisely.

Disclaimer:
1. All prices shown above are based on the date of this article is published. Please check with the banks or retailer for the latest gold prices (the links are already provided throughout this article).
2. Physical gold coins or bars may not be available at all branches. Please check with the banks and retailer to find out where you can purchase them.

20 comments:

KCLau said...

If we buy the 1oz gold bar, where is the best place to keep it?

I guess it is in the bank safe deposit. Or do you have any other suggestion.

By the way, I love your sharing about gold investment!

Carson Ding said...

Well, KCLau, after you have bought the gold coin, please don't tell anyone about it. That way you can just keep it inside your closet in your house.

However, if you still feel it is not safe to keep it in the house, then perhaps a bank's safe deposit. That's the extra cost in investing in gold coins, bars or bullions.

Thanks. It's great that you like this article. Gold is a hedge against inflation and especially during this time when the US currency is losing its value.

Invest in some gold now.

Anonymous said...

Hi Carson,

Thanks for ur info.

Do u know if PBB GIA is backed by physical gold?

Thanks & rgds,
LK.

Carson Ding said...

LK,

I am not sure whether PBB GIA is backed by physical gold. There was a term and condition and agreement to sign when I opened the account. I didn't really ask and read fully the agreement.

On the PBB website, there is a feature where you can withdraw the investment in physical gold. However, it is not currently available. That might give us some idea that perhaps it is backed by gold.

Anyway, please check with the bank to be sure.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

In what justification do you choose either to invest gold by keeping it physically or thru passbook?

Anonymous said...

I bump on a website which have offered similar thing, thegoldlabel.com, which if u see the faq on their web, they offer better i think. but is there a risk? which mentioned earlier in newspaper about their scheme?

Jeremy said...

Hi Carson,

Thanks for your advice on gold investment. How do you think about PBB Gold on 5-6% margin spread for buying physical gold? Is it worth?

Carson Ding said...

Jeremy,

PBB doesn't have physical gold. If you are looking for a thinner spread for physical gold, MBB's kijang emas 1 oz gold coin is the best. However, not many branches stock them.

Anonymous said...

Hi Carson,

There is some company selling physical gold. According to them, today we buy 100g gold coin at $13,500 from them. We will have rebate of 2.5% of the selling price. Then, when we sell back to them after 30days, they will buy back at the original price you purchased.
This means that we could have 2.5% of monthly return. Will this scheme better compare to others?
TQ.

Carson Ding said...

Anonymous,

I have written an article about this. Please read: http://www.unit-trust-investment.com/2009/07/176-gold-investment-scam.html

Well, with the gold price moving up and down, how can they buy it back at the same price (or higher price) than what they have sold to you?

If you have bought at a high price, and when gold price drops, can they still buy it back from you at that original high price?

Think through carefully.

Anonymous said...

I invested in Physical 999 Gold from SAMUDRA-GV, I bought 150gm of 999 gold with RM22,500 from SGV and every month enjoy 2.5% return which is RM562.00. Now have reach to 8 months and I have earned 20% which around RM4496 from my investment and I have already cash out from SAMUDRA-GV since last month.... I'm plan to buy another batch of gold 2010 February.

Its sound good to be true, but it is real, the good thing is you are holding the gold with you and still enjoying 2.5% every month as a rebate. initially I'm also cann't believe, but after I have really understand SGV business model work, yes my friend,I tell you, this is truely a capital preserve investment plan especially next year, it is a good timing and opportunity to invest in Gold, because I have done a lot research and I came across of articles about Gold future forecast analysis, they all have good forecast that gold price is going to shot up skyhigh begin from next year continuos up to end of 2011, at the same time, they have anticipate drop in US$ currency, which is over supply in the market, many countries especially China , India.... are holding a lot of US$ bond, begin to worry US$ will lost its value, has begin to switch them to Gold, as to preserve their capital funds. Pls see the following site link on Gold Price Forecast.

You can call me at 010-2609277 or email me at ncleong31@gmail.com if you want to know more about SGV Gold Investment Model.


http://www.bad-credit-advisor.com/2009/09/gold_price_direction_gold_prices_forecast_2009_2010.html

http://forecasts.org/gold.htm
http://www.goldresources.net/Gold-Price-Forecast

Carson Ding said...

Thanks ncleong31 for your offer. I must politely decline the offer.

I am happy with unit trust that invests in gold mining stocks or with bank's gold investment account.

Is the company licensed to take investment?

For the benefits of other readers, please read the comments left by readers on http://www.lioninvestor.com/genneva-gold/

There are debates on the authenticity of such investment.

Read them I urge you.

Anonymous said...

you said really understand SGV business model work.So can u tell me,how come SGV can give the investor 2.5% rebate?

Thank in advance.

Anonymous said...

hello ncleong31,

are you sure u have been invested in Physical 999 Gold from SAMUDRA-GV 8 months from the date you posted (Dec 26, 2010)..?

I don't see the RM150 (you claimed RM22,500 for 150g of Gold) per grams in Gold price for 8 months as well.

So now is already March 2010, how much have you invest and bought?



Hello boy, don't con yourself Godmorther money.

The company SAMUDRA-GV SDN BHD official registration date is June 23, 2009. How can you invested in Physical 999 Gold from SAMUDRA-GV and bought 150gm of 999 gold with RM22,500 from SGV?

and the every month enjoy 2.5% return for 8 months but the company is just 6 months old...? I can accepted your typing error but don't tell me the company are just too stupid in maths and pay you RM4496 for the past SIX months (RM562.00 x 8 mths)...

HELLO CON MAN.... GET LOSS!!!

Dee said...

Thx for all the knowledge guys. I felt much2 safer wt the unit trust way! CHEERS!

Anonymous said...

Thks. Interesting Read. I don't think I want to buy any gold.

Anonymous said...

I did also invest like ncleong,but in small amount,100gm, but I got 2.7% rebate every month for 3months ,then I sold back the 100gm,at the selling price.

Anonymous said...

Just curious on how SGV pay the rebate at a constant rate of 2.5% when the gold price fluctuates ? Please enlighten me. TQ

Anonymous said...

1/ on the redemption date if the price has gone up you are encouraged to top up cash to retain the equivalent gold weight.
2/ from july 2010, the minimum purchase is 100gms and it's multiples and the holding period has increased from one month to four months. the rebate is reduced from 2.5%/month to 2.0%/month.
3/ the 'comsultant' who introduced to the investment earns 0.7% commission from your investment. how about the 1st line consultant's commission?
4/ what happens when the price drops as it means
the 100gms, example, translates to 100 + x gms due to the lower prevailing price. will the company pay the cash value of x gms or encourage to top up to the next 100 gms? meaning putting in more cash....

Anonymous said...

wow,really appreacite to share the important info here...thanks alot

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